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		<title>By: South Side - Baseball Prospectus</title>
		<link>http://southside.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/10/06/the-perils-of-a-rebuild/#comment-2902</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2016 11:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] have made myself clear on what I think the White Sox should be doing to the point where people are probably sick of hearing [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] have made myself clear on what I think the White Sox should be doing to the point where people are probably sick of hearing [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: South Side - Baseball Prospectus</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2016 16:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] a team from the ground up is a risky gambit in any scenario, something Nick Schaefer wrote about here, but it’s a risky move with less incentive for a White Sox team that already has a really good [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] a team from the ground up is a risky gambit in any scenario, something Nick Schaefer wrote about here, but it’s a risky move with less incentive for a White Sox team that already has a really good [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: RobHewie</title>
		<link>http://southside.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/10/06/the-perils-of-a-rebuild/#comment-2334</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2016 17:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think there is a chance Alec Hansen is the steal of the &#039;16 draft.  I know it&#039;s only one season of lower level games, but scouts seem to be impressed with the changes he has made.  There are also some scouts that think Burdi could be a starter, not sure what the Sox have planned for him tho.  I&#039;ve heard good things about Jameson Fisher as well.  I&#039;m not implying greatness for these guys, but the point being better scouting and drafting is beginning to happen.  

I get the significance of having a solid core like Sale, Quintana and Eaton, but it&#039;s worthless if you can not surround them with better pieces.  The longer you wait to trade Sale, the less value he has.  They have been &#039;going for it&#039; for three years and to use Rick Hahn&#039;s term, they are mired in mediocrity.  

Yes, last year would have been the year to strike in the FA class for a Fowler or Zobrist.   I have no interest in signing Encarnacion or Bautista. Nor should they get involved with Wieters or Reddick.  The first two are too old and are likely to break down, the other two are mediocre.  Could they trade for worthwhile pieces?  Sure, but do they really have the depth to do that?  I don&#039;t think so.

Rebuilding is not a preference as much as it is the best option.   Also, if the trades are down correctly (a big if, I know) they could be relevant again within a couple of years.  The Sox are unique in the sense they have significant chips to trade to rebuild quickly.  For me, that would be when you strike in FA, after obtaining guys with 5, 6 or 7 years of control.

My parents would vacation in Sarasota, FL almost every winter and it was within a short distance of the White Sox spring training (Payne Park and then Ed Smith).  I loved the access Spring Training allows and fell in love with the team and been with them ever since.  How did you become a fan?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is a chance Alec Hansen is the steal of the &#8217;16 draft.  I know it&#8217;s only one season of lower level games, but scouts seem to be impressed with the changes he has made.  There are also some scouts that think Burdi could be a starter, not sure what the Sox have planned for him tho.  I&#8217;ve heard good things about Jameson Fisher as well.  I&#8217;m not implying greatness for these guys, but the point being better scouting and drafting is beginning to happen.  </p>
<p>I get the significance of having a solid core like Sale, Quintana and Eaton, but it&#8217;s worthless if you can not surround them with better pieces.  The longer you wait to trade Sale, the less value he has.  They have been &#8216;going for it&#8217; for three years and to use Rick Hahn&#8217;s term, they are mired in mediocrity.  </p>
<p>Yes, last year would have been the year to strike in the FA class for a Fowler or Zobrist.   I have no interest in signing Encarnacion or Bautista. Nor should they get involved with Wieters or Reddick.  The first two are too old and are likely to break down, the other two are mediocre.  Could they trade for worthwhile pieces?  Sure, but do they really have the depth to do that?  I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>Rebuilding is not a preference as much as it is the best option.   Also, if the trades are down correctly (a big if, I know) they could be relevant again within a couple of years.  The Sox are unique in the sense they have significant chips to trade to rebuild quickly.  For me, that would be when you strike in FA, after obtaining guys with 5, 6 or 7 years of control.</p>
<p>My parents would vacation in Sarasota, FL almost every winter and it was within a short distance of the White Sox spring training (Payne Park and then Ed Smith).  I loved the access Spring Training allows and fell in love with the team and been with them ever since.  How did you become a fan?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Schaefer</title>
		<link>http://southside.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/10/06/the-perils-of-a-rebuild/#comment-2331</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick Schaefer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2016 17:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I disagree that the 2016 draft was particularly strong, as the reasonable upside you&#039;re looking at is adding a pretty good 1B/DH and a couple of good relievers. 

I also disagree that the Astros used free agents to supplement their core.  Doug Fister and Scott Feldman hardly count as meaningful investment in the team.  

And while it&#039;s fine to talk about competing for sustained success, they are currently positioned to compete for at least 2017 and sacrificed the future to do so (e.g. Robertson, Melky draft picks).  There is nothing stopping you from playing the hand you currently have, and if you fall out of it in 2017 to sell at the deadline anyway.

I&#039;m not sure to whom you&#039;re referring with regard to the lower levels of the farm system being stronger.  Are you that sold on like, Alec Hansen already? That&#039;s enough for you to punt on multiple years of cheap Sale-Quintana-Eaton? Really?  Even if you sell there&#039;s a low probability you wind up with a good, cheap core like you have now, so you&#039;re basically rolling the dice that you will be maybe as well-situated as you are now. That&#039;s a pretty lame reward for committing to 95+ loss seasons for several years.

And yes, the &#039;17 FA class is underwhelming, which is part of why I was yelling to anybody who would listen that their chance to strike was last winter.  The thing is, this team doesn&#039;t need huge FAs at this point (although that would help). They just need to actually evaluate players correctly and add mid-to-low level FAs to patch the black holes remaining on the roster.

Other than my family, I think I knew one other White Sox fan in Connecticut.  How did you come by your fandom?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree that the 2016 draft was particularly strong, as the reasonable upside you&#8217;re looking at is adding a pretty good 1B/DH and a couple of good relievers. </p>
<p>I also disagree that the Astros used free agents to supplement their core.  Doug Fister and Scott Feldman hardly count as meaningful investment in the team.  </p>
<p>And while it&#8217;s fine to talk about competing for sustained success, they are currently positioned to compete for at least 2017 and sacrificed the future to do so (e.g. Robertson, Melky draft picks).  There is nothing stopping you from playing the hand you currently have, and if you fall out of it in 2017 to sell at the deadline anyway.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure to whom you&#8217;re referring with regard to the lower levels of the farm system being stronger.  Are you that sold on like, Alec Hansen already? That&#8217;s enough for you to punt on multiple years of cheap Sale-Quintana-Eaton? Really?  Even if you sell there&#8217;s a low probability you wind up with a good, cheap core like you have now, so you&#8217;re basically rolling the dice that you will be maybe as well-situated as you are now. That&#8217;s a pretty lame reward for committing to 95+ loss seasons for several years.</p>
<p>And yes, the &#8217;17 FA class is underwhelming, which is part of why I was yelling to anybody who would listen that their chance to strike was last winter.  The thing is, this team doesn&#8217;t need huge FAs at this point (although that would help). They just need to actually evaluate players correctly and add mid-to-low level FAs to patch the black holes remaining on the roster.</p>
<p>Other than my family, I think I knew one other White Sox fan in Connecticut.  How did you come by your fandom?</p>
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		<title>By: RobHewie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RobHewie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2016 17:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, you&#039;re then assuming the farm system is still poor, I&#039;m not.  I realize that&#039;s my opinion but I am optimistic regarding the farm system.  They are investing more resources and Nick Hostetler is taking a different approach to the draft.  The &#039;16 draft was excellent (at least as it appears at the moment).  The minor leagues are stronger in the lower levels, but nothing significant is ready to help this core.  With preferring the rebuild option, I&#039;m banking on (maybe foolishly) on better development within.  Of course, it will take free agents to supplement the new core, but isn&#039;t that what this is about?  The Cubs did that, the Astros to a degree and in a year or two, the Braves and Brewers will as well.  This free agent class is awful, which is another strike against adding to this team.  You would be filling holes with other holes potentially opening up after &#039;17.  I do think if they added for next year, they could contend for a WC, but is that the way to go?  The goal should be for sustained success, and for me, that&#039;s only down through a rebuild.

BTW, I am a lifelong Connecticut resident and White Sox fan.  Definitely a unique combination!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you&#8217;re then assuming the farm system is still poor, I&#8217;m not.  I realize that&#8217;s my opinion but I am optimistic regarding the farm system.  They are investing more resources and Nick Hostetler is taking a different approach to the draft.  The &#8217;16 draft was excellent (at least as it appears at the moment).  The minor leagues are stronger in the lower levels, but nothing significant is ready to help this core.  With preferring the rebuild option, I&#8217;m banking on (maybe foolishly) on better development within.  Of course, it will take free agents to supplement the new core, but isn&#8217;t that what this is about?  The Cubs did that, the Astros to a degree and in a year or two, the Braves and Brewers will as well.  This free agent class is awful, which is another strike against adding to this team.  You would be filling holes with other holes potentially opening up after &#8217;17.  I do think if they added for next year, they could contend for a WC, but is that the way to go?  The goal should be for sustained success, and for me, that&#8217;s only down through a rebuild.</p>
<p>BTW, I am a lifelong Connecticut resident and White Sox fan.  Definitely a unique combination!</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Schaefer</title>
		<link>http://southside.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/10/06/the-perils-of-a-rebuild/#comment-2327</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick Schaefer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2016 15:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What happens in 3-5 years when those controllable young players are good but need significant free agents to put them over the top? Haven&#039;t you just kicked the can down the road at that point?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happens in 3-5 years when those controllable young players are good but need significant free agents to put them over the top? Haven&#8217;t you just kicked the can down the road at that point?</p>
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		<title>By: RobHewie</title>
		<link>http://southside.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/10/06/the-perils-of-a-rebuild/#comment-2326</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RobHewie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2016 15:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know I&#039;m late to respond to this article, but still wanted to throw in my two cents.  I think rebuild is the best option for the Sox.  Yes. the Sox have cheap superstars, but their value will never be higher on the trade market.  The problem with going for it again is there are just too many holes to fill. Potentially 3B becomes a hole again if Frazier is not resigned.  Then there&#039;s C, 2B, CF, LF (Melky gone after &#039;17).  I realize you don&#039;t necessarily need excellency from the 4 or 5 spot in the rotation, but right now it will be Gonzalez and Shields.  Shields is done and Gonzalez is unlikely to make it through a full season.  The bullpen has question marks and the farm system is better but there little help for the immediate future, other than Fulmer.  No postition players on the horizon now that Anderson is up and solidified at SS.  And, as great as Anderson was, he magnifies one of the Sox biggest offensive issues, OBP.  I just feel trading the core pieces for multiple controllable young players and continuing to build the farm system is the best option.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m late to respond to this article, but still wanted to throw in my two cents.  I think rebuild is the best option for the Sox.  Yes. the Sox have cheap superstars, but their value will never be higher on the trade market.  The problem with going for it again is there are just too many holes to fill. Potentially 3B becomes a hole again if Frazier is not resigned.  Then there&#8217;s C, 2B, CF, LF (Melky gone after &#8217;17).  I realize you don&#8217;t necessarily need excellency from the 4 or 5 spot in the rotation, but right now it will be Gonzalez and Shields.  Shields is done and Gonzalez is unlikely to make it through a full season.  The bullpen has question marks and the farm system is better but there little help for the immediate future, other than Fulmer.  No postition players on the horizon now that Anderson is up and solidified at SS.  And, as great as Anderson was, he magnifies one of the Sox biggest offensive issues, OBP.  I just feel trading the core pieces for multiple controllable young players and continuing to build the farm system is the best option.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2016 22:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure about &quot;tearing up the core&quot; either, but they should definitely be looking to trade anyone on the roster over the age of 28.  That means keeping Sale/Quintana/Rodon/Eaton/Anderson but shopping Abreu/Melky/Frazier/Robertson/Jones/Jennings.  Odds are you won&#039;t trade them all, but they should reap a larger quantity of younger above-average players.  

But my free advice is probably worth what you paid for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure about &#8220;tearing up the core&#8221; either, but they should definitely be looking to trade anyone on the roster over the age of 28.  That means keeping Sale/Quintana/Rodon/Eaton/Anderson but shopping Abreu/Melky/Frazier/Robertson/Jones/Jennings.  Odds are you won&#8217;t trade them all, but they should reap a larger quantity of younger above-average players.  </p>
<p>But my free advice is probably worth what you paid for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2016 22:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hostetler seems to have stopped with the &quot;Kenny Williams clones - athletic but raw&quot; picks in the first 3 rounds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hostetler seems to have stopped with the &#8220;Kenny Williams clones &#8211; athletic but raw&#8221; picks in the first 3 rounds.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2016 21:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The front office seems VERY willing with supplemental parts.  They made a concerted effort after 2015 to acquire Rollins, Jackson, Lawrie, and Navarro.  

The problem is they all sucked.  And they sucked worse than the hole-fillers they already had in Charlotte (and lower, in the case of Narvaez).
   
If Jackson and Lawrie hadn&#039;t got hurt, they likely would have finished 10 games under .500 instead of 6.  Including defense (and you should) Avi Garcia actually performed better than Jackson and Schuck, Saladino and Sanchez played better than Lawrie and Rollins.  

The last decade of results indicate that Williams/Hahn are  incapable of building around a core.  In that sense, to rebuild or not to rebuild really isn&#039;t the question.  I&#039;m just hoping Hostetler continues with better drafts than his predecessors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The front office seems VERY willing with supplemental parts.  They made a concerted effort after 2015 to acquire Rollins, Jackson, Lawrie, and Navarro.  </p>
<p>The problem is they all sucked.  And they sucked worse than the hole-fillers they already had in Charlotte (and lower, in the case of Narvaez).</p>
<p>If Jackson and Lawrie hadn&#8217;t got hurt, they likely would have finished 10 games under .500 instead of 6.  Including defense (and you should) Avi Garcia actually performed better than Jackson and Schuck, Saladino and Sanchez played better than Lawrie and Rollins.  </p>
<p>The last decade of results indicate that Williams/Hahn are  incapable of building around a core.  In that sense, to rebuild or not to rebuild really isn&#8217;t the question.  I&#8217;m just hoping Hostetler continues with better drafts than his predecessors.</p>
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