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	<title>Comments on: Some Final Thoughts on The Cubs and The Off-Season Ahead for the White Sox</title>
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		<title>By: Mike Musary</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Musary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2016 18:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the compliment! My biggest concern is that there&#039;s a significant gap between what Sale is actually worth, and what the White Sox will actually get. Recently Dave Cameron said that the White Sox should get a better package than Andrew Benintendi, Rafael Devers, and Michael Kopech for Chris Sale. 

From a Red Sox perspective, that&#039;s a pretty fair return, but I agree with Cameron that it is light for Sale. Unfortunately, I doubt that the Red Sox would be willing to give up more, or possibly not even willing to deal that handful for Sale just because they don&#039;t need Chris Sale all that badly to sacrifice any more future value than they already would be in that trade package. If you can&#039;t get a premium for Sale, then the worst thing you could do is ship him out for pennies on the dollar. That only buries you further as an organization.  

If the White Sox can get an absurdly favorable package for Sale, then by all means they should deal him, but in the case they can&#039;t (which I think is likely) they should have a &quot;buy&quot; plan ready to go so they&#039;re not stuck in the middle again. 

Of course the most likely scenario ends up with the White Sox keeping Sale and not adding payroll which is some sadistic kind of awful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the compliment! My biggest concern is that there&#8217;s a significant gap between what Sale is actually worth, and what the White Sox will actually get. Recently Dave Cameron said that the White Sox should get a better package than Andrew Benintendi, Rafael Devers, and Michael Kopech for Chris Sale. </p>
<p>From a Red Sox perspective, that&#8217;s a pretty fair return, but I agree with Cameron that it is light for Sale. Unfortunately, I doubt that the Red Sox would be willing to give up more, or possibly not even willing to deal that handful for Sale just because they don&#8217;t need Chris Sale all that badly to sacrifice any more future value than they already would be in that trade package. If you can&#8217;t get a premium for Sale, then the worst thing you could do is ship him out for pennies on the dollar. That only buries you further as an organization.  </p>
<p>If the White Sox can get an absurdly favorable package for Sale, then by all means they should deal him, but in the case they can&#8217;t (which I think is likely) they should have a &#8220;buy&#8221; plan ready to go so they&#8217;re not stuck in the middle again. </p>
<p>Of course the most likely scenario ends up with the White Sox keeping Sale and not adding payroll which is some sadistic kind of awful.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Schaefer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick Schaefer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2016 16:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Rodon is totally killing it in arbitration that means he&#039;s been pitching really freaking well and will still be a bargain as compared to what that production costs on the open market.

If it is somehow a stretch to call a third year player &quot;controlled&quot; then somehow only players making the league minimum are worth their salaries, which is insanity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Rodon is totally killing it in arbitration that means he&#8217;s been pitching really freaking well and will still be a bargain as compared to what that production costs on the open market.</p>
<p>If it is somehow a stretch to call a third year player &#8220;controlled&#8221; then somehow only players making the league minimum are worth their salaries, which is insanity.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2016 20:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Calling Rodon &quot;controlled&quot; is a bit of a stretch since he has a decent chance of surpassing Sale&#039;s and Quintana&#039;s salaries via arbitration.

If they don&#039;t trade Rodon they will have to extended Sale or Quintana - they would not be able to extend both.  So one of the three will be moved.  My guess is Sale&#039;s &quot;Scottie Pippen&quot; attitude makes him the likeliest of the three.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calling Rodon &#8220;controlled&#8221; is a bit of a stretch since he has a decent chance of surpassing Sale&#8217;s and Quintana&#8217;s salaries via arbitration.</p>
<p>If they don&#8217;t trade Rodon they will have to extended Sale or Quintana &#8211; they would not be able to extend both.  So one of the three will be moved.  My guess is Sale&#8217;s &#8220;Scottie Pippen&#8221; attitude makes him the likeliest of the three.</p>
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		<title>By: AK</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2016 20:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike, this was outstanding. The media narrative has been to tear down and rebuild, but the way you phrased it makes a ton of sense. Moreover, unlike the pitching class, there are definitely some veteran bats that could make this team a viable contender in the interim. 

The one opposing consideration worth noting is that building around a young, position player-oriented core can create a higher floor for your team that allows you to dabble more in free agency for pitching over the longer term.  That being said, I&#039;d be assuming Hahn could get top-level talent in the Moncada/Benintendi realm in any Sale deal, which you&#039;re saying is unlikely. If that&#039;s the case, I&#039;d rather see them go for FAs now, and continue the momentum Hostetler has seemed to build this year in fortifying the minors for years to come.

Excellent work!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, this was outstanding. The media narrative has been to tear down and rebuild, but the way you phrased it makes a ton of sense. Moreover, unlike the pitching class, there are definitely some veteran bats that could make this team a viable contender in the interim. </p>
<p>The one opposing consideration worth noting is that building around a young, position player-oriented core can create a higher floor for your team that allows you to dabble more in free agency for pitching over the longer term.  That being said, I&#8217;d be assuming Hahn could get top-level talent in the Moncada/Benintendi realm in any Sale deal, which you&#8217;re saying is unlikely. If that&#8217;s the case, I&#8217;d rather see them go for FAs now, and continue the momentum Hostetler has seemed to build this year in fortifying the minors for years to come.</p>
<p>Excellent work!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Musary</title>
		<link>http://southside.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2016/11/07/some-final-thoughts-on-the-cubs-and-the-off-season-ahead-for-the-white-sox/#comment-2606</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Musary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2016 19:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks!  I certainly agree that the White Sox front office needs to improve themselves in a number of areas if they desire to assemble reasonably competitive teams in the future. It&#039;s been a rough decade for the White Sox :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!  I certainly agree that the White Sox front office needs to improve themselves in a number of areas if they desire to assemble reasonably competitive teams in the future. It&#8217;s been a rough decade for the White Sox <img src="http://southside.locals.baseballprospectus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif" alt=":(" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: jdserafini19</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jdserafini19]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2016 18:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great piece and it has me somewhat more at ease with the state of the club.  However, I still feel the front office leaves more to be desired in terms of how they operate.  Advanced scouting, amateur scouting, player development all seem to need a lot of improvement.  I thought this past draft they actually did well for themselves where in previous drafts they went with toolsy football player types like Jermaine Mitchell and Courtney Hawkins.  

I also continue to get the impression  that Kenny Williams and Rick Hahn butt heads more than we are led to believe.  If that is truly the case,   Jerry needs to step in and tell Kenny to remove himself from running the team.  Let Rick Hahn do his job and stay out of his way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great piece and it has me somewhat more at ease with the state of the club.  However, I still feel the front office leaves more to be desired in terms of how they operate.  Advanced scouting, amateur scouting, player development all seem to need a lot of improvement.  I thought this past draft they actually did well for themselves where in previous drafts they went with toolsy football player types like Jermaine Mitchell and Courtney Hawkins.  </p>
<p>I also continue to get the impression  that Kenny Williams and Rick Hahn butt heads more than we are led to believe.  If that is truly the case,   Jerry needs to step in and tell Kenny to remove himself from running the team.  Let Rick Hahn do his job and stay out of his way.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2016 17:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would a three way trade fix that &#039;Sale for Moncada and Benintendi&#039; problem? Two generation players is too much but surely they could one amazing player from one team and a very very good player from another]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would a three way trade fix that &#8216;Sale for Moncada and Benintendi&#8217; problem? Two generation players is too much but surely they could one amazing player from one team and a very very good player from another</p>
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